I'm Adam Manus and I'm Peter Martin, and you're listening to the You'll Hear It podcast.

Today on You'll Hear It, we're going to do something a little bit different.

We have a very special guest, Clara Arnold. How are you, Clara?

Pretty good. How about you?

Good.

So this is totally free form. We have nothing prepared, but we thought it would be fun to talk to

Clara. Clara is one of our graphic designers here, our lead graphic designer here at Open

Studio. She heads the graphic design team here at Open Studio. Right, she's both the team and the

manager of it. She's self-managed. Yeah. But anyway, so the podcast, you're probably hearing us doing

in the background a little bit. We're talking about how to get better every day as a jazz musician. And so I know you're not a musician, right? I played piano when I was younger, but that was about the extent of my musical adventures. Whoa, we got a ringer in here. Hold on. We got a pianist here. This is not a setup, you guys. No. Okay, so you do have a little bit of music experience.

Okay, that's good to know. And you say when you're younger, you're still very young, so it couldn't have been that long ago. Okay, so like from like four to like 13. Wow, we've got some years behind you. All right. That's seven years of piano. Okay. Nine, but you know.

Nine, was five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve.

Ooh, okay. Nine, but, you know. Nine, was five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve. Ooh, okay. Yeah, a little bit long. But you got me. Claire's about to start some art schools, so I think that we could talk to her about the relevancy between music and art. I like that. And learning a skill. I like that very much. A little cross discipline. A little cross-discipline. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so what Okay, so what are your feelings in terms of, you know, you're an artist, but I know you listen to music, you like music. Because you're around us, a lot, you at least pretend to like jazz, which is a smart thing. There you go. But what connections do you see between art and music and in terms of how you work on your art, if any? I mean, they're both in the same realm. They're just people expressing their emotions, right?

So I feel like art has this power to bring people together and people go to a music concert

and enjoy everything together just as people will go to a museum and enjoy everything together. So it's that expressing your emotions and putting it out for

people to see and you know that's what all art is. That's beautiful yeah. Oh

Thank you. You know so do you have a thing like when I see when I go to the

like the St. Louis Art Museum and I see paintings or drawings or any visual art,

a little part of me as a musician, I'm like, like, I can almost hear that. Like, it sounds like something.

You know what I mean? Do you have that? When you listen to music, you like, I can see that.

Oh yeah, definitely. I feel like everything, like stories and, you know, music is just sort of a story.

I always get these images in my head about how I would shoot them if I was like doing a video or draw them if I was going to like paint something.

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