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Another Day with Ana Marie Cox

“A Country Built On a Hate Crime w/ Arjun Sethi”

Another Day with Ana Marie Cox

Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

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4.66.4K Ratings

🗓️ 3 August 2018

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Arjun Singh Sethi (@arjunsethi81), author of American Hate: Survivors Speak Out, joined Ana (@anamariecox) on this week’s pod. Over the course of their conversation, Arjun explained why he wrote the book: to center the perspectives of hate survivors, who live with the everyday hate not just of Trump’s America, but that -- shocker -- has always been present in American life. He and Ana talked about the general erasure of hate survivors in no less a setting that prosecution of hate crimes, and why hate crime legislation, restorative justice, and listening to survivors is so important in the first place. Their conversation also touched on the role social media does, and should, play in tackling hate. Lastly, they talked about how Arjun’s two German Shepherds help him continue to do this work, and the most important thing he learned through this project. You can find Arjun’s book here. A clip from Taylor Dumpson’s TED Talk is included in the show’s intro. If you’re interested in the full version, you can find it here. Arjun referenced an SPLC report. Get in touch with the show on twitter at @crooked_friends or email us at [email protected] Thank you to our sponsors! Get one FREE month of unlimited Victorious fitness classes when you sign up at victorious.com/friends. Check out Secret Clinical Strength Antiperspirant. Go to Framebridge.com and use the promo code “Friends” to save 15% on your first order.

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0:00.0

There isn't a handbook on how to cope with being the victim of a hate crime.

0:06.3

No one tells you how much this will forever change your life.

0:09.8

No one tells you that anytime you hear of another racially motivated act, you become triggered

0:14.6

and fear for your own safety.

0:16.8

No one tells you how much of a dark cloud this will become over every aspect of your life.

0:23.0

Hi, I'm Anna Marie Cox and welcome to With Friends Like These.

0:28.7

This show where we talk about the differences between us without letting them divide us.

0:34.0

And I'm going to guess if you're listening to this show, you already know that hate crime

0:40.4

violence has increased in this country over the past.

0:44.0

Oh, coincidentally, two years or so.

0:46.6

Basically, since Donald Trump first rode down the escalator in Trump Tower, you've probably

0:53.5

read and seen the in-depth, you know, long-form journalism that's occurred to uncover the rise

1:02.0

of the alt-right and the new white nationalism, which is basically the same as the old white

1:08.3

nationalism.

1:09.5

A lot of people are really concerned, and they should be.

1:13.2

But have you noticed that for all the energy we well-meaning folk spend studying the rise of

1:22.3

the alt-right and white supremacy, we don't do a whole lot of studying of the people who have been

1:29.7

the targets of those groups.

1:32.3

We hear a lot of people trying to figure out the motives of those who perpetrate the violence,

1:39.0

and we don't hear so much about the survivors of that violence.

1:44.8

They all kind of blend together.

1:47.9

Well, Arjen Singh Sethi noticed that we weren't hearing those stories and decided to do something

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