We are thrilled to have John Nichols joining us for this edition of the warning.

He is the National Affairs Correspondent for the Nation magazine and the associate editor of

the Capitol Times newspaper in Madison, Wisconsin, where he resides.

He is in fact sixth generation Wisconsinian.

Nichols has covered elections and political movements in more than two dozen countries and is

an outspoken advocate

for a robust democracy. The author, a co-author of about a dozen books on media and democracy,

including the genius of impeachment and the death and life of American journalism.

Currently, his latest book written with Senator Bernie Sanders is number two in the bestseller

list in the New York Times.

Please check it out. It's called It's Okay to Be Angry About Capitalism.

And, John, I think the name of your second book that I mentioned is a great place to start.

What is the health of American journalism right now?

Oh, it's very bad. It's not healthy at all. And I say that as a working journalist who

has great regard for the people who do it, the people who are engaged. They're working harder

than ever, and it's not a criticism of individual journalists. But the system, the structure,

has not survived the transfer from the traditional legacy media print and some broadcast into a digital age.

Advertising has fled away from newspapers, and so newspapers are often thin shreds of their former selves.

And even when they're online, even when they're digital, they have staffs that are a tiny

portion of what they once have.

We have fewer people working on day-to-day watchdog journalism at the local and regional levels than we have had, you know, in the modern age.

This is not a healthy moment. And what happens is, is you lose journalism. As you lose, you know, that kind of newsroom full of people who go out and cover a community, cover a state, and then look at the

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