Thank you for listening to the Allender Center podcast.

I'm Dr. Dan Allender.

And I'm Rachel Clinton-Centen.

We're fiercely committed to providing hope and healing to a fragmented world.

And restoration for the heart.

Thank you for joining us.

Let's get this conversation started.

Thank you for joining us. Let's get this conversation started.

Well, we are thrilled today to be joined by author, writer, preacher, and self-described recovering no-it-all Sarah Bessie. She's our neighbor to the north in beautiful British Columbia where she lives with her husband and four children.

She's the author of bestselling books, Jesus Feminist, and Out of Sorts, Making Peace with an Evolving Faith,

which are available everywhere books are sold.

And today we're really excited to talk more about her most recent book, Miracles and Other Reasonable Things.

And the many ways, she embodies a faith, hope, and love that holds the tension of being human so beautifully well.

Oh, my goodness.

This is one of those sweet, sweet gifts to be with you, Sarah, and to have the privilege of just having a conversation.

And your most recent book is, well, as you're

writing and as you as a person, it's both winsome, compelling, hilarious, heartbreaking.

It's gospel. It's just, it's gospel. So to have you with us is, it's just big. I'm

actually a bit for clumped. Are you goody, Dan? I am. I feel like I'm rooishing, nonetheless.

Oh my goodness. It's so sweet to have you here.

And you're writing.

Let's just start with the fact that you tell the truth in a way that in one page, you could be laughing, gut laughing, and then weeping. How? How now? Before we get to your book,

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