This is an I-Heart podcast.

Guaranteed Human.

I'm Andre Gunning and this is Betrayal.

Today we have another bonus episode.

On our show, we tackle sensitive topics, from rape and

child sexual abuse to financial fraud and identity theft. We handle this work with a lot of care,

using trauma-informed interviewing techniques, consulting mental health experts, and communicating

with our subjects in every step of production.

But we're always trying to do better and to evolve as our culture evolves.

That's why last year we reached out to Rain, the Rape, Abuse, and Incest National Network.

Throughout Season 5, they've been advising us on ways to approach our work with survivors.

Recently, I sat down with Jennifer Simmons-Kaliba.

She's Rain's vice president of communications.

I wanted to share a bit of our conversation with you

and to give you a look into the kinds of conversations

we're often having at betrayal.

I hope you enjoy.

Can you tell us a little bit about yourself

and your position at Rain and what

rain is? Rain is the nation's largest anti-sexual violence organization. I'm the vice president

of communications. So my role is to ensure that people are more aware and educated about what sexual violence is. And the work that I

get to do is make sure that more people understand that the resources are there, that they are not

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