This is an important book. It's a very timely letter to the American church. He's a best-selling author. He has a syndicated radio and television show. He lives in New York with his wife and his daughter. Many best-selling books, Bonhoeffer, William Wilber Force. His books have been translated into 25 languages. And so I'm going to turn the table on him.

I'm going to do the interviewing.

Normally he does a syndicated show where he does the interviewing, but it's our

privilege to have him with us tonight.

Would you give a warm welcome to Eric Metaxus?

Wow.

Who are all these people?

Wow.

Please God.

Brought to you by Seven Weeks Coffee?

This is pretty...

Thanks for coming.

This is really amazing.

In New York, we don't have stuff like this. Actually. Churches?

Well, I mean, it's, I shouldn't say that because it's not quite true, but I'm impressed and blessed that people have come out tonight.

It's a very happy. Well, because they know it's an important topic. Now, before we talk about all of this, by the way, we're going to save like the last 15 minutes to do Q&A. So you'll be able to text in questions or maybe want to clarify something. And so that number will put up on, can we put that up now so that people can have it and be ready to text when

either he or I say something that doesn't make sense so it's 703 844-9969 and so you can use that

number to text in any question and we'll we'll get to those a little bit later first I want to

tell a funny story about you I want you to tell a funny story.

So back in May, Eric and I were at Calvary Chapel, San Jose. It was like a freedom weekend, and we were both

speaking there. Mike McClure is a mutual friend of ours. He pastors Calvary in San Jose. And they have been

levied like $2.8 million in fines by Governor Newsom because they

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