A Conversation With One of Blake Bailey's Accusers
The Waves: Gender, Relationships, Feminism
Slate Podcasts
4.2 • 903 Ratings
🗓️ 20 May 2021
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
Blake Bailey gained fame for telling the stories of famous men. But before that, he was a beloved middle school teacher—who went on to have questionable sexual relationships with several of his former eighth grade students. When his biography of Phillip Roth was published this spring, some former students started to speak out about their experiences with Bailey. A few revealed that after years of staying in touch with them as a mentor of sorts, he had made unwelcome sexual advances. Former student Eve Crawford Payton says he raped her when she was 22 years old.
On today’s episode, Slate news director Susan Matthews is first joined by colleagues Josh Levin and Molly Olmstead, who were her collaborators on “Mr. Bailey’s Class.” They unpack what it was like to work on the piece, which stories about sexual assault get told, and what that means for journalism as a mechanism for obtaining justice.
Later in the show, Matthews is joined by Eve Crawford Peyton. Peyton wrote an essay for Slate, detailing her experiences with Bailey, including the alleged rape. She talks to Susan about what her life has been like in the aftermath of the Bailey revelations and her struggle to juggle her conflicting emotions about her former mentor.
We’re so excited that the Waves is back as a place to have these important conversations. Going forward, each week on The Waves, a different pair of hosts will talk about one big thing that’s on their minds. But this week, we needed to break the brand-new format.
Podcast production by Cheyna Roth, with editorial oversight by Susan Matthews and June Thomas.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening ad-free on Amazon Music. |
| 0:03.6 | This is the waves. |
| 0:05.5 | This is the waves. |
| 0:06.6 | This is the waves. |
| 0:07.7 | This is the waves. |
| 0:08.4 | This is the waves. |
| 0:09.5 | This is the waves. |
| 0:12.2 | Welcome to the waves. |
| 0:16.2 | Slate's podcast about terrible teachers, this week at least. We're back, |
| 0:22.7 | and every episode you're going to get a new pair of Slate feminists talking about things that they |
| 0:27.3 | can't get off of their minds. I'm Susan Matthews. I'm Slate's news director, and I'm the editorial |
| 0:32.0 | lead for the Waves. Given that this is our first episode, we're going to completely abandon the format. |
| 0:37.8 | But we have a really good reason for it. |
| 0:40.5 | Today, we're going to talk about an incredibly important story that Slate recently published about Blake Bailey. |
| 0:46.9 | Now, this episode is going to contain discussions of rape and sexual assault. |
| 0:51.0 | So if you're not comfortable hearing those types of discussions, |
| 0:59.9 | please feel free to turn off this episode, and we'll see you next week. Now, who is Blake Bailey? |
| 1:05.4 | He's a literary biographer whose most recent book was about Philip Roth. But before that, |
| 1:12.9 | he was an eighth grade English teacher in New Orleans. He taught for seven years. And during those seven years, as we and other news outlets found out, he formed really close personal relationships with his students. He stayed in |
| 1:18.5 | touch with many of the girls he taught as eighth graders as they went through high school and |
| 1:22.0 | college, and he went on to have questionable sexual encounters with many of them. The nature of the encounters varied. Some women immediately rebuffed his advances. Some women had what they described as consensual sex with their former teacher. One woman, Eve Crawford-Payton, told us a story about Blake Bailey raping her when she was 22 years old. I want to note here that Bailey's attorney has denied any accusations |
| 1:46.8 | of impropriety. But what does this mean for the format of our show this week? We're going to start |
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