I'm Warren Smith, and today you'll be listening in on my conversation with Dr. Jeffrey

Bruchier's.

He's the author of a new book called American Crisis, Cultural Marxism and the Culture War,

a Christian response.

The early church, if you want to describe it or characterize it as moderately socialistic

to use modern terminology, the early church really practiced voluntary socialism or voluntary

communalism out of a sincere love for others, which is totally different, of course, from secular political socialism,

which is government mandated. It's always invariably coercive and involuntary.

Jeffrey Bershires took an interesting path to become one of the most quietly influential thinkers in evangelicalism today.

He was raised in the church, a conservative Baptist church, and he never completely left the faith of his youth.

But he did have sojourns in what today we sometimes call the religious left or progressive Christianity. We'll talk about that

in our conversation today. Jeffrey also spent time in the music industry, working for both

secular and Christian record labels in the early days of the Jesus music era. His experiences there

have informed his approach to apologetics and his strategy at the

Ariopicus Forum, which is a study center he leads.

It combines apologetics with history, art, and contemporary cultural issues.

Jeffrey Boucher's new book is called American Crisis,

Cultural Marxism and the Cultural War, a Christian response. He spoke to me from his office in Atlanta.

Well, Jeffrey, welcome to the program. It's really great to see you and to have this chance to talk. You and I have known each other for a very long time.

Absolutely. Almost in a prior life, I'd say. Well, in fact, in some ways, it was a prior life. And the reason I said that is

partly because that's where I want to start our conversation. You were raised in a Christian home,

and in your book devote a couple of chapters to your own personal upbringing in Odyssey. And I think

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