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Deadline: White House

“A Conversation with Gov. Josh Shapiro”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

Washington Dc, Msnbc, Politics, News, Government, Versant, Ms Now, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace

4.56.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace is joined by Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro to discuss ICE’s tactics on U.S. citizens as well as Gov. Shapiro’s new book, “Where We Keep the Light.” Later, Nicolle covers how ICE’s presence in Minnesota has prompted backlash from former Vice President Mike Pence and even Martha Stewart.

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0:00.0

Minnesota is abiding by the law as written.

0:07.2

We, under the 10th Amendment, the federal government doesn't have the authority to convert

0:12.9

us into its deputies.

0:15.1

We have the right as a state, as a co-sovereign, to do our own business with our own tax

0:20.3

money. And what the federal government has

0:23.5

done is said, well, if you don't do it our way, we're going to saturate your state with

0:29.6

4,000 ICE agents until you cry uncle and obey up. And that's unconstitutional and illegal.

0:40.5

Hi again, everybody.

0:41.4

It's five o'clock in New York.

0:42.5

That's Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison

0:45.0

on the imperative of states to exercise

0:47.4

their legal and constitutional authorities

0:49.7

and stand up against Donald Trump

0:51.4

and his administration's apparent attempts

0:53.9

to shut states out of investigations

0:55.9

into the deaths, the killings of their citizens at the hands of Donald Trump's ICE agents.

1:01.6

It comes as governors across our country have pushed back against the Trump administration's

1:06.2

attempts to supersede the authority of state elected officials, something Republicans used to care about.

1:12.1

With even some Republican governors, like Texas Governor Greg Abbott, Vermont Governor Phil Scott,

1:17.6

and Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stick calling for restraint from Donald Trump's ICE in the wake of the killing of Alex Pready by federal agents on the streets of Minneapolis.

1:27.4

Blue State governors are readying themselves, girding themselves really, for their states to possibly be Donald Trump's next target.

1:34.3

They're preparing every tool in their legal arsenals to fight back.

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