A Conversation With Caroline Calloway

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Society & Culture

4.5 • 611 Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2023

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Exciting, but not surprising. Caroline Calloway, self-proclaimed “scammer” and queen of name-searching, reached out to promote her book on the pod. In this special interview, Hannah and Maia discuss the long-awaited memoir, Scammer, with the author herself (who characteristically conducted the interview from her luxurious Floridian bed). Discussions include: the ethics of writing about other people’s traumas, undervaluing art made on social media, and the Dimes Square Image Rehabilitation Centre™. Digressions include: Tile Tequila and the nightmare that was being bi in the 2000s, coining the term “trad book”, and Caroline’s official inauguration as “schemer, not scammer.”

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0:00.0	Hey guys. So a few weeks ago, we got a DM in our inbox from Caroline Callaway herself,
0:06.6	saying that she'd like to come on the pod. Caroline is on this DIY press tour right now to promote her
0:11.9	new book and basically going on every single podcast she can. And while we figured she had never
0:17.8	fucking listened to our episode about her, we were like, you know what, we simply cannot pass up this opportunity. So please enjoy this special interview with Caroline.
0:25.5	We promise the next season will be out very, very soon. We are in the middle of recording
0:28.9	the first batch of episodes, and we're super excited for what we've got in store for you.
0:33.3	So stay tuned for the next season, and until then, hope you like this episode. Hi, everyone. We're here today with the one and only Carolineoway, who's come on the pod for a very special
1:12.3	episode to talk about her new long-anticipated book, Scammer.
1:16.7	For those of you who don't know, Caroline got her start as an early Instagram influencer,
1:22.3	known for her long, poetic captions, and aspirational lifestyle.
1:26.2	In 2019, she came to notoriety after a series of
1:29.7	creativity workshops, as well as a searing expose by her friend Natalie in the Cut, in which
1:35.6	Natalie took credit for ghostwriting Caroline's captions, as well as a portion of Caroline's
1:40.7	unfinished memoir. Caroline then became known to the public as a scammer, a title she's since reclaimed.
1:47.1	In 2020, she opened up a pre-order for Scammer, a book many people were skeptical would
1:52.6	ever come to print.
1:54.1	It's taken some time, and there are still people waiting on their copies, but three
1:58.4	years later, Scammer has been completed and we got to read it.
2:02.3	So thank you so much for being with us today, Caroline. We're very excited. Thank you.
2:06.2	And let's not get one thing twisted. Those people are going to keep waiting because it's going
2:11.2	to take me like a month to ship out the rest of these copies. I'm gluing in these Italian marbled
2:17.2	endpapers by hand. I'm signing,
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