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A Conversation with Amazon CTO Werner Vogels

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🗓️ 28 August 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Werner Vogels is the Chief Technology Officer at Amazon, where he has played a pivotal role in shaping the company’s technology vision for over two decades. Before joining Amazon in 2004, Werner was a research scientist at Cornell University where he focused on distributed systems and scalability, both of which are concepts that would later

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Werner Vogels is the chief technology officer at Amazon, where he has played a pivotal role in shaping the company's technology vision for over two decades.

0:09.3

Before joining Amazon in 2004, Werner was a research scientist at Cornell University, where he focused on distributed systems and scalability, both of which are concepts that would later influence the design of AWS.

0:22.6

He holds a PhD in computer science and has authored numerous academic papers on the reliability

0:28.1

and performance of large-scale systems. As CTO, Werner has been instrumental in guiding Amazon's

0:34.7

transition from an online retailer to a global cloud infrastructure provider.

0:39.5

He is one of the key architects behind Amazon's push into cloud computing, helping to define the new

0:45.2

model for delivering infrastructure. He is known for his pragmatic, customer-focused approach to

0:50.5

technology and for championing ideas such as, You it, you run it, APIs are forever,

0:55.8

and more recently, frugal architecting, which emphasizes cost-effective and sustainable software

1:02.0

design. In this episode, Kevin Ball sits down with Werner for a wide-ranging conversation.

1:08.1

They discuss the early days of Amazon, the birth of AWS, the principles

1:12.9

of the frugal architect, aligning costs to the business, engineering business collaboration,

1:18.9

technical debt, and much more. Kevin Ball, or K-Ball, is the vice president of engineering

1:24.5

at Mento and an independent coach for engineers and engineering leaders.

1:28.8

He co-founded and served as CTO for two companies, founded the San Diego JavaScript meetup,

1:33.9

and organizes the AI inaction discussion group through latent space.

1:38.1

Check out the show notes to follow KBall on Twitter or LinkedIn or visit his website, kball.

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LLC.

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Hello, KBall here, and I have the absolute honor of getting to introduce today, the chief technical officer of Amazon, Ferner Vogels. Thank you, Kevin. Thanks for having me, and it's

2:07.3

going to be a fun day. I'm excited to get to talk to you. Now, I like to start, especially with people

2:12.0

who have done a lot of speaking and being introduced places. How do you introduce yourself? What do you highlight when

2:18.1

you get to say, here, here's who I am? I've been doing this for 20 years and I'm kind of tired

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