A Conversation About Trans Representation in the Rock Canon
Sound Opinions
Sound Opinions
4.3 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 26 June 2024
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
In this bonus podcast, Jim talks with critic Niko Stratis about an error in a recent bonus episode on the song "Lola." The conversation goes from there to consider the representation of transgender people over the years in the work of artists like Lou Reed and Against Me! among others.
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| 0:20.2 | So Nico, in the interest of Verisimilitude, and because this is where we start our conversation we're going to play your voicemail and then launch into a conversation from there. |
| 0:29.0 | I like that you're going to prove the bullying works to get yourself on the air. |
| 0:32.8 | Oh no, I didn't see it as that at all. |
| 0:36.6 | It was a respectful conversation. |
| 0:38.6 | No, no, I know. |
| 0:40.3 | I really appreciate it, you know, like, you never know with these sort of things when you, I always sort of try to approach them from a good place, but you never know because sometimes when you push, when you say like, hey, I, you know, I have a different feeling on this or whatever. |
| 0:53.6 | Sometimes, you know how it is. |
| 0:54.8 | Sometimes people just don't like to get those notes. |
| 0:57.6 | I don't like to get those notes all the time. |
| 0:59.6 | Hey sound opinions. |
| 1:00.8 | My name is Nico Stratus. |
| 1:01.9 | I'm a trans woman. I'm a writer, culture critic. I live in Toronto. |
| 1:06.0 | I just listen to your Desert Island jukebox episode about Lola by the Kinks and also the cover by the raincoats and I want to bring to your attention |
| 1:16.4 | that there's a key fact that you got wrong in the episode in kind of a serious way and prefacing all of this by saying that I know that the |
| 1:26.6 | conversation was meant well and was said with love but you refer to Lola as a |
| 1:32.1 | trans man or potentially a cross dresser and that is not true. |
| 1:38.0 | Lola is a trans woman. |
| 1:40.0 | There's a moment where the two of you, you know, talking about the raincoats cover |
| 1:47.1 | at how they kept the male pronoun and it's not, it's incorrect. I mean factually we know that Lola is based off of a real trans |
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