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🗓️ 30 October 2024
⏱️ 49 minutes
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The MAGA cult represents a profound public mental health crisis. Since 2017, Dr. Bandy Lee has raised the alarm about the pervasive influence of Donald Trump's psychopathy on his followers, coining the term "Trump contagion," and it may have affected people in your own circle.
In her urgent book, The Psychology of Trump Contagion, Dr. Lee argues that the mental health implications of Trump's MAGA movement are significantly underestimated. With her extensive background in public sectors such as prisons and state hospitals, she has observed how toxic influences can spread. Rather than lifting those around them, healthy individuals risk adopting the pathologies of those with severe impairments—a dynamic she has witnessed in environments like street gangs or dysfunctional families, reminiscent of the Trump family itself.
Trump's manipulative tactics leave many feeling trapped and powerless, distorting reality to maintain his grip on power. At the heart of Trump's pathology are his pronounced narcissism, violent tendencies, and deep-seated feelings of inadequacy—all exacerbated among his followers by societal stressors like the income inequality crisis.
In Part 1 of our conversation, we delve into the dark psychology behind Trump and his enablers, including the lack of urgency by Nancy Pelosi during the first two impeachments, as this show warned, as well as the roles played by media executives, and corporate greed.
This week’s bonus show, out Saturday, for our Truth-Teller ($5/month) members and higher will address pressing questions about Jill Stein in our listener Q&A, produced by our Democracy Defender ($10/month) members. We’ll also continue our discussion with Dr. Lee on how to navigate relationships with MAGA cultists, whether Trump staged his assassination attempt, and the troubling connections to pedophile rings within the corrupt family court system. Thank you to everyone who supports the show–we could not make Gaslit Nation without you!
Show Notes:
Join our final phonebank with Sister District this Wednesday at 6pm ET! https://www.mobilize.us/sisterdistrictnyc/event/642096/
Near Fort Myers, Florida? Join Andrea for a day of action! https://www.mobilize.us/leecountydec/event/680718/
Are you in London? Andrea will be speaking at the Ukrainian Institute of London on Friday November 15th. Details here: https://www.tickettailor.com/events/ukrainianinstitutelondon/1450274
The More Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 40 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Warn Anew https://www.amazon.com/More-Dangerous-Case-Donald-Trump/dp/B0DJ4JZD2B
The Psychology of Trump Contagion: An Existential Danger to American Democracy and All Humankind https://www.amazon.in/Psychology-Trump-Contagion-Existential-Democracy-ebook/dp/B0CW1DWBZ9
Discover more of Dr. Bandy Lee’s work at her personal site: https://bandylee.com/
This week’s opening song was “Change Happens (One Conversation at a Time) by Ellen Schwartz and Roger Bruno of the Band Too Human. Check out their work here: http://toohumanonline.com and Submit your own music here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1-d_DWNnDQFYUMXueYcX5ZVsA5t2RN09N8PYUQQ8koq0/edit?ts=5fee07f6&gxids=7628.
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0:00.0 | I'm going to go. Welcome to Gaslet Nation. I am your host Andrea Chalupa, a journalist and filmmaker and the writer and |
0:27.2 | and producer of the journalistic thriller Mr. Jones about Stalin's genocide famine in Ukraine, the film that the |
0:34.4 | psychopaths in the Kremlin don't want you to see so be sure to watch it. |
0:38.6 | This week we have a very special guest, Dr. Bandy Lee who was early warning everyone about the current |
0:48.1 | crisis America and therefore the world finds itself in where Donald Trump might become |
0:56.4 | president again and it's game over for democracy in America and even if Kamala |
1:02.0 | Harris hopefully wins we are still left with the |
1:07.0 | violent cult of Nazi MAGA. We're still living with that violence and we need to understand it and |
1:16.1 | note to do about it and that's what this discussion is about and we're going to |
1:19.2 | run part two this coming weekend and Bandy Lee she's wonderful we're going to have her again on the show |
1:25.2 | she's an American psychiatrist and the author of several books and other resources which will link to in the |
1:31.2 | show notes she's most recently the author of the psychology of Trump contagion |
1:37.0 | an existential danger to American election and all of this then join me at the |
1:48.8 | Gaslight Nation phone bank this Wednesday 6 PM Eastern were making calls with Sister District into crucial |
1:56.5 | battleground states sign up in the show notes and this weekend to our |
2:01.7 | listeners who are anywhere near Fort Myers, Florida, I will be there Saturday and Sunday helping Gaslet Nation listeners, including one who's running for office in a local race get out the vote. |
2:15.5 | All of these key local state races are building resistance to Victor Orban of Florida, Ron DeSantis, and that drives up ballot races like |
2:27.8 | Kamala Harris, the federal races. So Florida is very much in play and we're going to get as close as we possibly can and build greater |
2:36.0 | resistance for the future because it's not just about winning the White House but leaving |
2:40.4 | no one behind. |
2:41.8 | We're not going to leave our Republican hostage state |
2:44.8 | listeners behind. You are safe with us, we're fighting for you. And if you are in |
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