A Closet without a Door: How Culture Affects Coming Out

All Out in the Open

All Out in the Open, Questions from the Closet

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🗓️ 8 July 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Our OUT and About episode this week looks a little different. Our guest Adrian (name changed) from Indonesia isn’t able to come out publicly, so he shared his experiences as an LGBTQ+ Latter-day Saint with host Iese Wilson, who retold them to Ben Schilaty. We’re grateful for every story bravely shared on All Out in the Open.

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0:00.0	Welcome to All Out in the Open.
0:01.8	We have a little bit different episode this week.
0:04.0	We are out and about with Yassay Wilson every month he takes us on this amazing tour of the LGBTQ Latter-Decine experience across the globe.
0:11.0	And it's a little bit different and Ben's going to tell you why.
0:14.0	Yeah.
0:15.0	And this episode is a bit different because Yasey interviewed his friend, who's from Indonesia, and the friend didn't feel comfortable being open and sharing
0:21.5	their story publicly, but still an important and interesting story. And so Yasei talked to his
0:26.8	friend, and then I interviewed Yase so that he could share his friend's story. And it's just an
0:31.3	interesting dynamic because not everyone can be out or it's safe to be out, but that doesn't mean
0:36.2	the stories don't matter and that
0:38.1	we can't learn from them. Yeah, there's a lot to learn and we hope you love this episode.
1:13.9	I'm coming to you from actually my family home in the city of Orange. I'm out on vacation. The episode that was supposed to air didn't record. And so now I'm doing it from California. And I'm here to share story a very hard story to share of my friend from Indonesia and before I get to that I have I don't have my friend from
1:21.4	Indonesia but I have a friend that you all know and love you know me love him Benchalati
1:26.5	everybody hello i am not
1:28.7	indonesian um and i'm also in my childhood home right now and yeah visiting home for the summer
1:35.4	so so glad to be here and to have this conversation with you even though i am not your friend from
1:39.8	indonesia i'm just your friend yeah and and i need ben here like i think thank you think, thank you, Ben, for being here, because, like, it's before getting into
1:49.1	this really complex story of my friend, who we'll call Adrian, I just wanted to, I've
1:59.2	not had the chance to be very vulnerable on this podcast because, you know, the reason
2:03.8	why I signed on to this podcast and when Ben and Charlie asked me to join was I love the
2:10.1	idea of elevating these stories that we don't normally get to hear outside the U.S.
2:17.7	and of different cultural perspectives.
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