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A Clean Energy Future: How Hawaii Is Sparking The Push

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🗓️ 19 January 2022

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Sixty percent of electricity in the U.S. comes from fossil fuels, like natural gas and coal. Today on the show, guest host Dan Charles talks with reporter Julia Simon about how Hawaii is fighting climate change by throwing out what's been standard for many decades and encouraging the state's power company to make clean electricity.

For more of Julia's reporting, check out "Biden's climate agenda is stalled in Congress. In Hawaii, one key part is going ahead." <>

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0:00.0

You're listening to Shortwave from NPR.

0:04.4

Hello Shortwaveers, Dan Charles here.

0:08.1

And I am joined by Julia Simon, an independent journalist in California, Julia.

0:13.5

Welcome.

0:14.5

Thanks Dan.

0:15.5

I saw that you took a trip to Hawaii recently, but not for the beaches.

0:19.4

No, it wasn't for the beaches.

0:21.5

It was for the sun and the wind in a very different way.

0:25.9

Explain.

0:26.9

Basically, if you know me, you know that I nerd out on utility regulation.

0:31.7

It's not everybody's favorite topic, but I promise you it is very exciting.

0:36.6

So you went to Hawaii to look at power plants.

0:39.4

I got to ask you, why did you have to go to Hawaii for this?

0:42.4

It's really about the people behind the power plants.

0:46.6

In many ways, Hawaii, they hope to be what they call the postcard from the future.

0:53.1

And what they mean by that is they are on a mission to get their state off of fossil fuels.

0:59.4

And we're going to need that clean electricity for our transportation, for our home heating,

1:03.9

manufacturing, all kinds of things.

1:05.2

So basically, the future of the planet is at stake.

1:08.2

And you've found a path to a better future in Hawaii.

1:12.2

Yes, it's very important.

1:14.0

The issue is that we've been doing things the same way for more than 100 years.

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