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All right, welcome to season two of Sons of Patriarchy.

Season one was all about focusing on Doug Wilson, focusing on patriarchy, focusing on Christian nationalism,

where these movements come from, who the major actors are on these movements, the history of

these movements, the theology of these movements, the politics of these movements, and how it's

led to a breakdown in a lot of these churches and the abuse that these churches have perpetuated

or perpetrated themselves or covered up. And season two is all about where do we go from here?

What does the church do? Has the church respond? How can the church reform respond to these

abuse allegations or abuses within, within marriages, within elders, whatever it may be?

And so we have another guest coming on today. Dr. Scott McKnight, he's a rather prolific author of New Testament

Studies. And he's also written a few books that are pertinent to our conversation today, Invisible

Jesus from Zondervin and then a church called Tov and a few other books on the Tov study. I think

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