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We have with us today Barry Harvey. He is Professor of Theology at Baylor University,

author of many things, including Taking Hold of the Real, Dietrich Bonhofer and the

profound worldliness of Christianity, and a revised volume recently put out called

Baptist and the Catholic tradition reimagining the church's witness in the modern world.

That is our topic today. Welcome, Professor Harvey.

Thank you so much.

So this is an update of a book written several years ago.

Why the update?

Was there a particular impetus for doing the revision?

Some.

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