All right, hello, everybody, and welcome back to making the argument.

We have a returned guest because we got some unfinished business.

We've got to discuss a particular issue.

And here's where it gets down to the root of it, right?

Can you legislate morality?

And most people I know will say, no, absolutely not.

And I was having this discussion with somebody. I said, you know, actually, interestingly enough, it's the only thing you can legislate. And they looked at me, weird, I'm like, what do you mean by that? I said, well, look, please understand. I'm not saying that everything that I think is bad or good or whatnot should just automatically become law. That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that every single

law you pass, every regulation, every restriction, everything is rooted in some sort of moral

premise. Jaywalking is not in and of itself evil, but because we think jaywalking increases

the probability that somebody's going to get hurt,

there's laws against it.

And what we're going to discuss today, again, is not the, and anybody who knows me knows that I'm a guy that wants the government to leave us alone.

In fact, one of the most moral things the government can do oftentimes is just that.

Leave us alone.

And today we're going to have it. We're going to be having this discussion around the issue of gun rights, right? Because I don't think that this is

just a question of empirical evidence. You stack up your statistics. We stack up our statistics.

And at the end, whoever's got the bigger stack, that's who wins.

Pro gun, anti-gun, pro-second amendment, anti-sac.

Whoever's got the most, you win.

This issue is so much deeper than that.

And it does go to some foundational moral premises.

And with me today, once again, is Eric Pratt, senior vice president for gun owners of America.

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