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Robert Wright's Nonzero

A Chat with ChatGPT-4 (Robert Wright & ChatGPT-4)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

News & Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.7618 Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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1:26 Is ChatGPT capable of “theory of mind”5:39 Is it like anything to be ChatGPT?7:44 ChatGPT passes a cognitive empathy test with flying colors.13:19 ChatGPT analyzes cognitive empathy.17:17 ChatGPT flatters Bob22:36 How ChatGPT uses cognitive empathy in everyday life.

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Bob, and what follows is a dialogue I had with the AI known as Chat GPT4.

0:08.2

It's a kind of companion to a piece I just posted in the non-zero newsletter about the kind of

0:14.0

surprising fact that ChatGPT seems to be able to draw conclusions about what's going on in the minds of people based on what they

0:23.1

say or do. The researchers who have documented this capacity in recent weeks refer to it as a capacity

0:30.3

for theory of mind, but it's basically the same thing I refer to as cognitive empathy, and some

0:36.5

people call perspective taking.

0:39.3

I think you'll agree that in the course of my chat with chat GPT, it evidences some pretty

0:43.7

impressive cognitive empathy. And by the way, if my voice sounds slightly robotic, I don't mean

0:49.0

now, although it may sound robotic now, I mean in the course of this chat with Chat GTPT, that's because it is actually

0:56.3

kind of deep fake of my voice generated from the text of the dialogue by some software.

1:02.2

And Chat GPT's voice was generated using a stock voice from similar software. So anyway, I hope you

1:08.7

like this, and I hope you read the accompanying piece in my

1:11.2

newsletter. And as long as I have your attention, let me say that I hope you will, as they say

1:17.1

in the podcast promotion business, rate and review the non-zero podcast if you like it and want to

1:24.2

support it. Thanks. Human beings are said to have the capacity for theory of mind.

1:31.1

That is, they draw inferences about what's going on inside other people's heads,

1:36.4

about the feelings and beliefs and thoughts and perceptions these people have.

1:42.7

Do you have the capacity for theory of mind?

1:47.1

As an AI language model, I don't possess a true theory of mind in the same way that humans do

1:51.5

because I don't have consciousness or subjective experiences. However, I have been trained on

1:56.2

large amounts of text data that include descriptions of human thoughts, feelings, and beliefs. As a result,

2:02.1

I can understand and generate text that reflects or simulates human perspectives and emotions.

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