Welcome to The Moth Podcast. I'm Suzanne Rust, the curator at The Moth.

And I'm Lila Day, co-creator of The Stoop Podcasts. And we're your host for this episode.

One of the things I love most about the Moth is the sense of intimacy that listening to a story gives you.

It creates this beautiful, like almost sacred space,

and that space can let you think about things in a way you didn't before.

Consider new perspectives, or maybe a feel truly seen, and maybe for the first time.

And I'm reminded of that special intimacy when I listen to one of my favorite podcasts, The Stoop,

which is co-hosted by Leila Day, who's sitting right next to me.

Hey.

Yeah, so on The Stoop, my co-host, Hannah-Baba and I, we try to tell stories that are from the

Black Diaspora that people just don't hear enough of, Like stories about folk tales and psychedelics,

and black joy and beauty and ballet, we really try to go there.

Yeah, and you really do, and I feel like I'm part of that conversation when I listen.

You really bring us in close.

You know, so on this episode of The Moth podcast,

we're going to be doing something a little different.

In addition to playing a story from the Moth, we'll also be playing a part of an episode of The Moth podcast, we're going to be doing something a little different. In addition to

playing a story from the Moth, we'll also be playing a part of an episode of The Stoop.

Mm-hmm. And we'll be talking about the larger theme that both the Moth story and the

stoop episode touch on, swimming and the black community's relationship to it. There are so many incorrect stories and

stereotypes about black people in swimming, that we don't know how to swim. I've even heard that

our bodies aren't made for swimming. Oh, I've heard that too, and so many more things. Let's talk

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