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The Spear

A Chaplain in Ukraine's Trenches

The Spear

John Amble

Government, News

4.8642 Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2023

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

In 2014, when Russia invaded eastern Ukraine and Crimea, Father Andriy Zelinskyy, a Jesuit priest, was the first military chaplain to authorized to enter the warzone. Father Zelinskyy quickly found his place at the front providing pastoral care. Since then, he has spent almost three years in frontline trenches and positions, including combat in the Donbas and near Debaltseve, ministering to soldiers defending their homeland, their humanity, and their lives.

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to The Spear, a podcast about the combat experience from the Modern War Institute at West Point.

0:09.8

More than 100 meters outside the village, you were definitely getting in a fire.

0:14.2

My first patrol I took, we had a fire ambush.

0:18.9

And then it was just a huge explosion.

0:23.0

The primary threat was RKG3 grenades,

0:25.9

like machine guns and AK-47s, that kind of thing.

0:28.4

Small arms, fire, RPG fire.

0:31.2

Explosively formed penetrators.

0:32.9

Suicide bombs.

0:35.5

And then that's about the time that the third IED went off.

0:37.8

And that's when another grenade comes spinning over the side of the wall.

0:41.8

And it's at that point the IED chain detonates.

0:46.8

There was enemy in the wire.

0:48.0

There was all these Humvees on fire.

0:50.0

It was truly bullets flying from every angle that you could see.

0:54.5

I opened the door and look outside and all I see is muzzle flashes.

0:59.0

There's a guy on top with a 240.

1:02.0

In the rounds passed right past his head.

1:03.5

At that point, our instincts kicked in.

1:05.0

One pilot on the controls, the other pilot was using his M4 to engage single-man targets on the ground.

1:10.5

You're shooting at everything.

1:16.8

It was a fight.

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