The We have been talking about this episode of this

podcast probably since episode one. Pretty much.

Because everybody who's seen the show,

yeah sure, you would love to talk to Mylovent amilia.

You'd love to see Justin Hartley.

You'd love to talk to Chrissy.

But the person that you don't know you want to talk to come through now is Ken

Olan can olan's in the house ladies and gentlemen

You don't know it till now the original silver fox. How you, gorgeous? I'm good.

It's really nice to see you.

It's me to see you, too.

It's been a long time, but it's weird because it doesn't really feel that way.

No, it doesn't.

It's nice. Well, you're up. You're in Vancouver right now helping

out Justin with Tracker so you still sort of connected through that as well. But like what people don't know like we know Fogleman you know you see the

faces in front of the camera but when you have a producing director someone who's

handling three to four to five I'm not sure what the most episodes was that you

did in the season but you're there all the time and somebody who has just as

much care affinity for the characters as we do as the actors doing it like Ken cares and knows it so much and to be directed by you is to be directed by someone who loves you and you feel that much more open and generous and carefree because you know that like oh this man loves this show as much as I.

Yes.

And in layman's terms for people who like a producing director is is someone who essentially

oh how would I put this oversees the continuity of the show directs the directors

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