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Deadline: White House

“A cascade of pardons”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

Msnbc, News, Ms Now, Versant, Politics, Government, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Daily News, Washington Dc

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 8 December 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace on Donald Trump’s recent pardons of people convicted of drug-related charges. These pardons are happening simultaneously with boat strikes in the Caribbean done in the name of preventing drug trafficking.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi there, everybody.

0:07.4

It's 4 o'clock in New York.

0:08.4

It's pop quiz time.

0:09.6

Don't worry.

0:10.2

This one's easy.

0:11.5

Try to think about what the following people have in common.

0:14.0

First, Ross Ulbrick, sentenced to life in prison 10 years ago for building what was

0:18.9

at the time, The single largest digital black

0:21.7

market for illegal drugs and other illicit items. Then there's Larry Hoover, Chicago gang boss,

0:27.6

convicted in 1997 of conspiracy, extortion, and money laundering. The third name is Garnett

0:33.7

Gilbert Smith. He's a Baltimore drug kingpin found guilty of charges related to distributing

0:38.9

cocaine. And finally, this one's really easy. It's been in the news lately, Juan Orlando Hernandez,

0:44.7

the former Hunter and president. He was convicted just last year in a drug trafficking case that

0:49.7

suggested he'd help cartels move some 400 tons of cocaine through his so-called narco state

0:56.5

of a country, all of it bound for the United States and our citizens. Now, what these men have

1:01.9

in common, if you didn't guess it already, other than very serious drug-related charges,

1:07.4

is that every one of them was pardoned by Donald Trump, just since he's been president the second time.

1:13.8

And if you're wondering, wait a minute, that doesn't make sense. The Trump administration is right now

1:18.9

an apologetic and its seemingly extrajudicial killings of suspected drug smugglers at sea,

1:25.4

all of it ostensibly in the name of reducing the flow of

1:28.6

illegal drugs to U.S. citizens in our cities and towns, well, then you're on to them.

1:35.5

None of it makes sense.

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