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The Vergecast

A buggy Sonos mystery

The Vergecast

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Tech News, Technology

4.44.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2025

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

The Verge's Will Poor recently came home from vacation and discovered he had an insect problem. More specifically, his Sonos speaker had an insect problem. Will brings us the story of what really happened there, and what he discovered about how the animal kingdom — and the electronics world — works. After that, The Verge's Andru Marino tells us about his research on all things AI podcasts. He tells us why people are so hooked on NotebookLM's Audio Overviews, where these generated shows fall short, and what all us human podcasters could learn from the bots. Finally, The Verge's Jennifer Pattison Tuohy helps us answer a question on the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email [email protected]!) all about smart lights. Which get complicated faster than you think. Further reading: Oh no, Google is turning everything into a podcast Google’s NotebookLM AI podcasts add ‘interactive’ mode for some Q-and-A Steven Johnson on Google, NotebookLM, and AI research A guide to getting started with smart lighting: When to use smart switches and smart bulbs Inovelli smart switches Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Vergecast, the flagship podcast of a very specific kind of pest control.

0:09.2

I'm your friend David Pierce, and I am sitting here doing a project I've been putting off for

0:13.6

years, which is going through my surprisingly enormous collection of sports cards to see if any

0:20.3

of them are worth anything.

0:21.3

They've just been sitting in a box.

0:22.4

I really loved collecting them as a kid,

0:24.3

and now I just have binders and binders full of them sitting around.

0:28.6

I don't know if any of them are worth anything,

0:30.3

but I found this app, thank you technology,

0:32.7

that lets you just scan the front of the card,

0:35.5

and it'll immediately identify it and tell you if it's worth

0:38.7

anything. The app's called Ludex, and I have no idea if it's legit, but so far it's told me

0:44.0

all of the cards I have are essentially worthless. We'll see. I got a lot of them to go through.

0:49.0

All you need is one, right? Anyway, that's not we're here to talk about. We are going to do two things on the show

0:54.3

today. First, I'm going to talk to Will Poor about a very strange adventure he had after getting

0:59.8

home from vacation and discovering what was going on inside of his sonos. Then I'm going to talk

1:05.2

to Andrew Marino about an adventure he's been on trying to figure out whether all of these AI generated podcasts

1:12.0

are actually up to something. Lots of fun stuff. We have a hotline question about smart lights,

1:17.1

lots to do, lots to get to. All that is coming up in just a sec. But first, I've decided I'm

1:21.7

going to scan these cards until I find one that is worth $20. That doesn't seem like too much to ask.

1:28.1

$20.

1:28.7

We're going for it.

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