This is an I-Heart podcast.

And we return to our American stories and Tyler Spadie's story.

We're talking about the mass shooting that occurred in Thousand Oaks,

California at the borderline Bar and Grill where 13 people were killed in an instant, practically.

And Tyler was there.

There was a pause in gunfire, so someone in the borderline bar and grill yelled run.

As Tyler recalled, quote, with those borderline bar and grill yelled run.

As Tyler recalled, quote, with those words, everyone started moving.

And that included Tyler himself.

Here again, it's Tyler Spader.

Everyone was running toward the kitchen.

I didn't know whether it was behind me or not, I looked over my shoulder and when I turned around

someone had put down the waiter um door and I hit my face into that and fell under it and started crawling

and everyone was shoving and pushing trying to get through the small door

trampling over each other and uh people are basically swimming over over each other and it was a

really claustrophobic moment of terror and you could hear the bullets whizzing over and hitting the walls

as we were moving out.

And I got up and started running, running through the kitchen in a haze.

I got to the back of the bar where there's a loading dock and jumped off that and fell over onto the ground and then recovered from that.

And there was a group of about 40 of the people that were with me running to the hill nearby.

And I started running up to that, but I didn't feel safe in that moment.

So I told everyone on the hill to run to the neighborhood nearby and a girl came with me and I helped her

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