From New York Times, I'm Michael Bobarrow.

This is the Daily.

Just hours before a federal immigration officer killed Renee Good in her car, the Minneapolis police chief warned that a tragedy involving ICE and the people of his city

seemed inevitable.

Today, I speak with that police chief, Brian O'Hara, about his experience with ICE in Minneapolis

and why, in his mind, the president's campaign of mass deportation

is undermining faith in police departments like his.

It's Monday, January 12th.

Chief O'Hara, thank you for making time for us on a Sunday, no less,

and a very busy weekend for you.

Sure.

Thank you for having me.

The past 48 hours were pretty extraordinary from the perspective of an outsider.

There were these enormous protests.

I believe you yourself ended up in the middle of one of them. I've tried to make sense of the video. I mean, what has this been like for you? So what happened was we had a protest start

outside of a hotel where people believed federal law enforcement might be staying.

They believe to ICE agents were staying there, right? Exactly. During the course of that protest

in March, it sort of transitioned into an unlawful assembly. And things that typically happen in

cities happen. And a woman who was disoriented drove her car

onto a sidewalk, and the police were called to respond. So while the police car was there,

dealing with regular police work, suddenly they realized they had become surrounded by this

crowd, which had become unruly. So our officers called in,

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