I have two daughters, I have a four-year-old and a two-year-old, and I'm probably going to have conversations with them about, you know, information and disinformation,

data permanence, privacy, and security before I ever have the awkward conversation

that a father never wants to have with a daughter about, you know, just don't talk to boys.

Hi, I'm Ian Bremmer, and welcome to the G0 World podcast. I'm host of the weekly show G0 World

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This week, I sit down with Jared Cohen, founder of Google's tech incubator, jigsaw, and a veteran foreign policy advisor.

Today we'll talk about the crossroads of technology and geopolitics, and I'll be sure to ask them what kind

of cybersecurity threats we can look forward to in upcoming elections. Let's get to it.

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Thank you. to learn more. Jared Cohen, CEO of Jake Saw.

Let me start with asking you about cyber, and particularly elections.

You don't believe that there is a significant cyber threat to midterms

coming up in November here in the United States. Why? I believe there's a threat to the midterms.

I just believe that in the aftermath of the 2016 election meddling, I believe that foreign

adversaries are toning it down. It's probably the smart strategic decision for them.

If you don't do as robust a meddling in the midterm elections as you did in the 2016 elections, two things happen.

One, people are less prepared next time around.

Two, it's not as much part of the zeitgeist.

Three, people become complacent and feel like they've largely got it under control.

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