A Bob or A Buzz? (with E. Jean Carroll)

Choice Words with Samantha Bee

Lemonada Media

Comedy

4.4 • 1.7K Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Advice columnist extraordinaire and author of the new book Not My Type: One Woman vs a President, E. Jean Carroll joins Sam to talk about why she decided to write her book in secret even going to the length to edit it over Signal. Because Sam grew up reading E. Jean’s column, E. Jean also pauses to take credit for all of Sam’s success. They talk about the unwritten rules of jury trials like why you’re not allowed to entertain the jury with interesting stories and why E. Jean says it almost killed her. E. Jean regales Sam with the details of recreating her signature 1996 bobbed hair so the jury would believe she was fuckable (her words!), and the evidence she wasn’t encouraged to submit. Then she tells Sam about the Hideous Men Tour she used to run, and the year she spent as a writer at SNL. They had a gas!

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0:00.0	Why do we do what we do? What makes life meaningful? My name is Elise Lunan and I'm the author of
0:07.1	On Our Best Behavior and the host of the podcast, Pulling the Thread. I'm pulling the thread. I explore
0:12.9	life's big questions with thought leaders who help us better understand ourselves, others, and the world
0:18.5	around us. I hope these conversations bring you moments of resonance, hope, and growth.
0:23.8	Listen to pulling the thread from Lemonada Media wherever you get your podcasts.
0:31.5	Lemonada
0:32.0	The only thing keeping me from crawling into my sweater drawer and hibernating for the next four years is that sometimes the stupidity is so hilarious that I can't pass up a moment of joy.
0:48.3	You just need to laugh.
0:50.1	You know what?
0:51.4	I take back what I said last week.
0:53.5	It's fine if they cancel all the TV.
0:55.8	No one can write anything as funny as what actually happens to Eric Adams. Oh, it's true.
1:03.7	I have some real choice words for the sheer incompetence of the current Democratic mayor of New York City and also the current independent candidate for
1:11.9	mayor of New York City who happens to be the same person, Eric Adams.
1:17.2	Look, even if you don't live in one of the five boroughs, news of his mayorship has probably
1:23.1	spread to your corner of the earth.
1:25.1	He's been charged for bribery and wire fraud has lied about where he
1:29.7	lives and that he's a vegan. And it feels like every other day one of his advisors says their
1:35.4	home are rated or are themselves indicted. Okay. So you're asking yourself, hey, hey, hey,
1:42.8	hey, hey, Sam, hey, everyone in government has been indicted these days.
1:46.5	It's downright presidential.
1:48.1	What's so funny about this that's keeping you from burrowing into your sweaters?
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