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The Warning with Steve Schmidt

A Blueprint for Change | A Conversation with Bishop William Barber & Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove

The Warning with Steve Schmidt

Steve Schmidt

News, Politics, Government

4.8784 Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

America has a long history of using moral movements and non-violent action to effect change and it's time to use that strategy again. Steve Schmidt sits down with Bishop William Barber and Minister Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove to talk about the moral and political crises in our country. Subscribe for more and follow me here: Substack: https://steveschmidt.substack.com/subscribe Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/thewarningses.bsky.social Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SteveSchmidtSES/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thewarningses Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thewarningses/ X: https://x.com/SteveSchmidtSES

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0:00.0

I am thrilled tonight to join you here on the warning with two men. I admire a great deal.

0:08.0

We have Jonathan Wilson Park Grove, Minister Jonathan with us, and of course we have Bishop William

0:16.8

Barber. And both of these men are new to substack where they are spreading a gospel of not just the good

0:29.2

Lord's teachings but of Americanism.

0:33.6

And we're going to talk about that.

0:35.8

One of the things that I've been dealing with is I took my 80-year-old mother to the Normandy Landing beaches, which is something that she wanted to see.

0:48.7

A few weeks before I had the great privilege in Jackson, Mississippi, to stand in the driveway on the spot where

0:58.1

Medgar Evers was gunned down. He was a Normandy veteran. I was at the spot where Medgar Evers

1:06.7

would have come ashore, where he would have begun his duty and his journey.

1:15.2

And I have been dealing with an incandescent anger as I walked amongst the gravestones, the betrayal of American values and ideals, and I know

1:34.9

that anger is not healthy. And I know that anger is not productive. But I know my anger about what is happening is very real. And so I couldn't

1:52.2

think about two better people to talk about three things before we talk about registering millions

2:00.0

of voters. I'd like to talk about registering millions of voters.

2:03.3

I'd like to talk about anger because there's a lot of angry people in America

2:06.6

angry about what's happening,

2:09.4

and I'm one of them.

2:11.6

I'd like to talk about doubt.

2:17.3

It doesn't seem like men like Abraham Lincoln and Winston Churchill and Martin Luther

2:28.1

King ever dealt with doubt. But the record shows they all had crises of faith and they all doubted.

2:38.7

And we look at them as lions who were strong when everybody else wavered.

2:49.0

But it's more complex about that.

2:52.6

And lastly, to talk about faith and how to let go and trust that there is a plan

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