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“A blow in court”

Deadline: White House

MSNBC

News, Donald Trump, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Politics, Nbc News, Washington Dc, Msnbc, Government

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2023

⏱️ 103 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace discusses breaking news that former Vice President Mike Pence testified before Special Counsel Jack Smith’s grand jury investigation of the twice impeached ex-president, the former president’s desperate attempt to have allies in Congress stop the Department of Justice from investigating his handling of classified documents, updates from the courtroom in E. Jean Carroll’s civil lawsuit against him, major developments in discovering what led to Tucker Carlson’s firing at Fox News, and more. Joined by: Luke Broadwater, Harry Litman, Mary McCord, Charlie Sykes, Mike Schmidt, Charlie Sykes, Lisa Rubin, Joyce Vance, Molly Jong-Fast, Richard Stengel, Tim Heaphy, Garrett Haake, Ryan Reilly, and Rep. Zoe Lofgren.

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0:00.0

Hi everyone, it's Barclay Gn.

0:08.3

A blow in court for the twice impeached disgraced and indicted ex-president.

0:13.8

It all but insurers, that special counsel Jack Smith will finally hear from the key witness

0:19.2

who numb the other investigations into the Trump coup plot, not the January 6th Select

0:25.0

Committee in Congress, not the Fulton County DA Funny Willis.

0:29.2

As ever heard from underups, we're of course talking about Vice President Mike Pence.

0:34.0

A ruling handed down Wednesday night by a federal appeals court rejects an emergency request

0:39.5

by Trump to block Mike Pence's testimony.

0:42.9

Here at Times reports this quote, the 11th hour ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for

0:47.2

the District of Columbia paves the way for Mr. Pence to appear before the federal grand

0:52.6

jury as early as this week.

0:55.1

The ex-president has a few legal options left, including an appeal to the Supreme Court,

1:00.3

but has NBC News reports, quote, in previous instances where the appeals court has said Trump

1:05.8

senior aides or his defense attorney Evan Corcoran must testify.

1:10.5

His legal team has opted not to fight the decisions further, and those witnesses have

1:15.1

quickly appeared before the grand jury.

1:18.4

In Trump's argument that executive privilege prevents Pence or any of his aides from testifying

1:24.2

about conversations they had with Trump has already been rejected by court.

1:29.7

After court, including in this very case, Washington Post reports this quote, Pence initially

1:35.2

fought the subpoena himself arguing that he was taking part in a congressional proceeding

1:40.1

on January 6th and therefore covered by protections for lawmakers.

1:44.8

But when chief U.S. District Judge James Boesberg and DC ruled that the speech or debate clause

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