I've been to Sacramento, like, twice.

Don't go.

Don't go back.

Welcome to Spensters, a podcast where we already missed the WMBA season.

I'm Jordan Liggins, and you guys are really in for a treat today.

I got a chance to interview Erica McCall of the Washington Mystics, the five-year forward.

And we really talk about everything under the sun, but mostly we talk about her new podcast,

Birds Eye View, that spotlights the experience for WMBA players going overseas.

We know that a lot of WMBA players are already on their

overseas teams, made that transition. And she really gets into what that transition is like,

the different food, the language, the travel, long distance relationships, all of that in

between on her podcast and in our conversation. We also talk about

a hidden talent that she has, so make sure to stay tuned to that. I actually just saw on her

Instagram story the other day that her family threw her a Thanksgiving slash Christmas

meal because she always misses those holidays from traveling overseas.

So I thought that was so sweet.

And just a reminder of how much these WMBA players actually miss when they're gone.

But there's that and so, so much more.

So here's Erica McCall.

First, bird is in the building. I wrote that on my

nose because I just really wanted to say that. So bad. Please, please tell us where that nickname came

from because I think it's amazing. I already know, but I just want

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