A BILLION YEARS: My Escape From a Life in the Highest Ranks of Scientology with Mike Rinder

Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

Dr. Steven Hassan

Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education

4.8 • 684 Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2022

⏱️ 69 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Mike Rinder escaped his 46 years of Scientology, having achieved the #3 spot of power and head of their intelligence unit OSA. His new book helps pull back the curtain on many aspects of this notorious authoritarian cult. He starred with Leah Remini on Scientology and the Aftermath, and now their podcast Fair Game. In this special interview, I cover some essential details that folks (especially cult watchers) will wish to know. For example, he answers my specific questions that help connect the dots with the criminal activity and mind control that Hubbard enshrined into cult doctrine. In this age of mass radicalization, understanding Scientology cult mind control offers a window to understand how intelligent and educated people can fall prey to malignant narcissists. It also proves that people (including top leaders) can exit and become contributing members of society. Learn more about Steven Hassan and Freedom of Mind Resource Center. Visit freedomofmind.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan, and today we have a very special guest with us, Mike Rinder.
0:11.3	Mike Rinder has been a presence in my head since the 80s, but Mike, I didn't get to meet you in person until we did the A&E special with
0:23.4	Leah Remini and you. And I remember that moment where I was sitting next to you having the surreal
0:29.5	thing that I'm sitting next to the guy who used to petrify me and used to, you know, be the architect of Office of Special Affairs
0:41.4	attacks on my friends like John Atack and Jerry Armstrong and other people who were left
0:49.9	and spoke out against the group. But man, I'm so thrilled that you have taken up the mantle
0:59.0	to expose this criminal organization
1:02.9	that I believe is a trafficking organization,
1:06.6	labor trafficking at the very least.
1:08.7	In fact, the title of your book, your billionaire, I mean,
1:12.9	that's the C-org contract, right? And you were how old? You were in high school when you were
1:18.5	asked to sign? Oh my goodness. I just graduated high school, Steve. I joined this the organization as soon as I graduated.
1:30.2	And you were raised in the cult.
1:30.5	Your parents got involved, I believe, when you were
1:32.7	five years old.
1:35.1	And yeah, so you know Hubbard,
1:38.7	you've been on the ship with Hubbard,
1:40.7	you were involved with their tax exemption,
1:47.8	hard press, and the fraud that was involved with that. You know celebrities. I mean, there's so much I want to cover. But we want people
1:54.3	to read your book and to also listen to your current podcast called Fair Game, as well as look at, you know, episodes from the
2:05.4	award-winning show with Leah as well. But let's start with Fair Game, if we may, because that's
2:14.3	the title of your podcast. Explain for our listeners what you did as a leader in Scientality
	...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Dr. Steven Hassan, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Dr. Steven Hassan and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.