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Here in the United States, we are alarmed by the new calls to adopt socialism in our country. America was founded on Liberty and Independence and not government coercion, domination and control.

We are born free and we will stay free.

That might be my favorite portion of any, or is this super applause line? My favorite line of a speech, right? That might be my favorite portion of any state of the union address.

I've ever watched my adult life. I have to go here. Tonight we renew our resolve that America will never be a socialist country.

Love it. Love it. Love it. Love it. Love it. Love it. Love it. Love it. Love it more. And he's probably wrong. But it will perhaps postpone the inevitable slide into the answering the siren song socialism and the inevitable rocks.

I wonder how much that contributed to the overwhelmingly positive poll numbers on the speech that are out today.

Well, let's consider that. Another question is about speech in the state of the union with Lonnie Chen, David and Diane Steffi Research Fellow at the Hoover Institution. Lonnie is also the director of domestic policy studies at Stanford University. Lonnie, welcome. Sir, how are you?

Hey, guys. Been working doing well. That was that was the best part of the speech by the way without question. It was fantastic. You know, I fear that everybody stood up. Yeah. Well, Bernie set the red face and angry, but red face and socialist. So overall impressions, Lonnie.

Well, yeah, I first of all, I thought that that was a strong part of the speech because it represented a contrast that I think most Americans, I looked at it as I'd most Americans over a certain age would completely agree with the sentiment that the president expressed their regard as socialism. But aside from that, I thought on policy grounds, it's actually a pretty good speech.

I think you put in there a lot of things that people would generally agree with that need to have better border security, the need to have more transparency and health care, the need to have better infrastructure.

I mean, these are things that generally speaking people would find to be important priorities. Overall, I thought it was actually a pretty strong speech. I'm not surprised that the reactions were pretty positive.

Not to be too sarcastic, but people also approved of our moon landing and winning World War II. So what are you against? These things? These are some pretty easy to applaud for things. And nobody's going to disagree with.

Hey, let me assert something, Lonnie, then you take it from there. I thought it was almost clintonian in its triangulating as the which is a fancy way to express.

He said a bunch of stuff that Democrats like had to be happy about and applaud for. And I'm looking at the CBS news poll.

56% thought the speech would help unite the country. Only 8% thought that the divisive orange face president would divide the country with that speech.

But not even 10% thought it was a divisive speech. That was remarkable to me.

Yeah, that was remarkable. And here's the other thing. We oftentimes respond to things based on our expectations. And I think, you know, the White House said, look, this is going to be a speech that's going to unify people. I would say, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, whatever.

And then the president comes out and he gives a speech which was for, I think 90% of it was pretty unifying. And I think people then sort of say, well, actually, yeah, that was, and we expected maybe something that was very different.

So the expectation to game the framing game that that's all part of the state of the union address as well. And in previous administration, do you see this where administration that come out and tried to set expectations in this case.

I think because the president in some situations has been quite dissuaded over the last year. He was able to come out and give a speech to us.

Not people said, actually, you know, that was quite unifying. The theme in there, the policy in there was quite unifying.

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