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Case in Point: The Legal Show on the Hottest Legal Cases in Politics and Culture

A Big Grant and a Missed Opportunity

Case in Point: The Legal Show on the Hottest Legal Cases in Politics and Culture

The Heritage Foundation

Government

4.5527 Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2018

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Josh Blackman joins Elizabeth Slattery to talk about the news that the justices will hear a big case involving administrative agencies but not one dealing with Planned Parenthood. Elizabeth also chats with Paul Larkin about his many SCOTUS arguments. Tune in for Supreme Trivia - SCOTUS class photo edition.Follow us on Twitter @scotus101 and send comments, questions, or ideas for future episodes to scotus101@heritage.org.

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0:00.0

I'm Elizabeth Slattery and welcome to SCOTUS 101, where we break down what's happening at the Supreme Court, what the justices are up to, and other things related to our favorite branch of government.

0:12.9

This week, I'm joined by Josh Blackman, a professor at the South Texas College of Law, Houston, and a prolific blogger.

0:19.4

Josh, welcome back to SCOTUS 101. Thank you so much for

0:22.4

having me. So this week we're going to talk about a big Supreme Court grant and a missed

0:27.6

opportunity. I also recently sat down with my heritage colleague Paul Larkin to reflect on his 27

0:33.6

Supreme Court arguments. So first up, the Supreme Court justices recently sat for their

0:38.9

official portrait, which they do whenever they have a new member of the court, and now they're out

0:43.7

until January 4th, but not without dropping a couple of bombs before leaving. On Monday,

0:48.9

the court granted cert in an incredibly important case involving deference to administrative

0:53.6

agencies.

0:54.8

The case is Kaiser v. Wilkie, and the issue is whether the court should overrule

0:59.1

Hour v. Robbins and Bowles v. Seminole Rock and Sand Company, which direct courts to defer to an

1:05.4

agency's reasonable interpretation of its own ambiguous regulation. So this isn't the first time the court has been

1:12.1

asked to overrule these cases, but with the addition of two justices who are very skeptical

1:16.9

of agency deference, this could be the beginning of the end for Hour and Seminole Rock, and perhaps

1:22.7

other agency deference doctrines are not far behind them. So, Josh, how do you think this case is going to

1:28.0

play out? Well, let's first explain what our and similar rock deference are. Most people are

1:34.5

familiar with the idea of Chevron deference. This is the idea that Congress enacts a statute with an

1:39.9

ambiguous term that courts will give deference to an agency's interpretation of that ambiguous

1:46.1

term so long as that interpretation is reasonable, and that's a fairly broad standard.

1:51.8

Our deference, or sometimes called seminal rock deference, is a little bit different.

1:56.8

Here, when an agency issues a regulation and then subsequently interprets its own regulation,

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