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A Better Way to Talk About Gun Violence

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

News, Daily News, News Commentary

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2021

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

The national conversation about gun violence in America almost always focuses on mass shootings -- but these events tend to overshadow the more day-to-day violence that makes up the bulk of gun deaths in the U.S. What would our policy conversation look like if more attention was paid to the kind of gun violence that’s most prevalent? 

Guest: Abené Clayton, reporter for Guns and Lies at the Guardian.

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0:00.0

The last month has been pretty brutal for Abine Clayton.

0:08.0

She covers gun violence over at The Guardian.

0:10.6

That means there's been no way to avoid shooting after shooting.

0:15.2

Shootings at the hands of the police.

0:17.1

Shootings at those Atlanta spas.

0:19.7

At that Boulder grocery. At the Indianapolis FedEx facility.

0:24.2

It's tough. It's been really difficult to keep track. I have kind of a running tally in my mind.

0:30.7

But in the past few weeks, it's all become, frankly, a bit muddled and overwhelming.

0:37.4

It's especially overwhelming because Abiné has committed herself. frankly, a bit muddled and overwhelming.

0:42.6

It's especially overwhelming because Abiné has committed herself to keeping track of all kinds of gun deaths, not just the ones that make national headlines.

0:46.7

When we got on the line, Abiné casually mentioned four people who were killed in an office

0:50.9

building in Orange County at the end of March.

0:53.8

Then she told the story of a kid named Demetrius Fleming Davis, just 18 years old.

0:59.4

He was killed by a stray bullet a couple of weeks back.

1:03.1

So Demetrius, I think he had actually just left picking up like some gardening supplies from Home Depot

1:10.1

and was riding in a car in Oakland

1:13.1

and someone started shooting and he got hit and he died.

1:19.6

And he wasn't involved in an altercation. He was just in a car.

1:24.2

He was just in a car, mining his business, preparing to go about the rest of his day.

1:30.4

And someone took his life, and that person may not even know what happened.

1:37.3

But yeah, he was riding in a car and got killed, and I've seen a lot of community sadness and

1:43.7

outrage over that one.

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