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Unexplainable

A better Black Death story

Unexplainable

Vox

Life Sciences, Science, Natural Sciences

4.62.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2026

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

What happens when researchers reexamine some of the basic facts about the Black Death? They start rewriting history and rethinking blame. Guests: Hannah Barker, professor at Arizona State University; Ulf Büntgen, professor at the University of Cambridge; Martin Bauch, historian at the Leibniz Institute for the History and Culture of Eastern Europe For show transcripts, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠vox.com/unxtranscripts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠For more, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠vox.com/unexplainable⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠And please email us! ⁠⁠⁠unexplainable@vox.com⁠⁠⁠We read every email.Support Unexplainable (and get ad-free episodes) by becoming a Vox Member today: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠vox.com/members⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Thank you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:58.4

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0:59.4

Are you ready?

1:00.7

Yes.

1:01.2

Hello.

1:02.0

Hi.

1:02.3

Hello.

1:03.0

I have you here today to talk about the Black Death.

1:09.3

Fun!

1:10.9

Yeah. Well, kind of, actually, though. Fun! Yeah.

1:11.8

Well, kind of, actually, though.

1:14.1

Like, interesting, at least.

1:16.8

You got a fun take on the Black Death?

1:19.5

Well, I got interested in the Black Death.

1:23.3

Because this paper came out last year about sort of climate and the black death in Europe.

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