Hello and welcome to another episode of App Stories back home after WWDC.

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I'm John Voorhees and with me is Federico Vodici.

Hey, Federico.

Hello, John. We're back home. We're jet lagged and all the fun things, you know.

Yeah.

It's nice to be back. I do, after every WWDC, when it's about time to leave, like, I get that sort of like post-conference

nostalgia, you know?

I do too.

Just because we both work from home.

And it doesn't really happen that often that you get to hang out with not just your colleagues,

you know, from international or U.S. media, people that we know on social

media, people that we know for our work, but also to hang out with developers and just, you know,

you run into the occasional listener or reader and it's just so concentrated in three, four

days that I do get that. Like, I'm obviously happy to be back home

with my dogs and with Sylvia in Italy. But at the same time, it's, you get that nostalgia.

Also, it doesn't help that Apple Park is such a beautiful place. It's very, it's very, it's very,

it's very natural. And I did a lot of walking

at Apple Park this year, just in between briefings and demos. So it's, it's kind of coming back

from a vacation. You miss that vacation, you know, even though it was work, even though it was

about work. Yeah, there was a lot of work going on, but I totally get where you're coming from.

I mean, especially Wednesday, I think, is when it really hit me because by around, you know,

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