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When problems arise in your church, how do you respond?

Here's Pastor Mark Brogop.

If you're trying to lead and minister to people who are fundamentally broken,

you can either view their brokenness as the thing that you hate, or you can use it as the thing

that actually could be useful for their own sanctification and for yours.

This is the Reviver Hearts podcast with Nancy DeMoss Walgabuth, author of Let's Go to Church.

For October 13th, 2022, I'm Dana Gresh.

Have you noticed that more and more believers today seem to be disillusioned with the whole concept of church.

In fact, a lot of them are deciding they don't need the church anymore and dropping out altogether.

Well, recently, Pastor Mark Rogop spoke to the staff of Reviver Hearts, along with our parent organization,

Life Action Ministries, about what Mark called

the beautiful mess of the church. Now, Life Action sends teams to minister in churches around the

country. They conduct what they call revival summits in local churches. And you'll hear Mark

refer to that in this message. This message was so encouraging and

helpful to me and to the rest of our staff, and we thought that during this pastor's appreciation

month, this would be a great message for our Revive Our Hearts listeners. If you're finding

yourself discouraged about some of the problems in the church, I think this message will give you a really helpful perspective.

Mark Rogop is the lead pastor at College Park Church in Indianapolis.

Now, here's part one of a message that we're calling a beautiful mess.

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