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Visit your nearest showroom. Welcome to the Bullwork Podcast, I'm Charlie Sykes. It is November 9th, 2003, and we're all hung over from watching the big

Republican debate from last night and parsing all of the the nuance and the

substance and the winners in the...

No, I'm just kidding.

I sort of watched it.

As I wrote in my morning shots, I knew that I was supposed to be taking notes, but my mind

was wandering and I kept sort of thinking what would Abraham

Lincoln think of Veevec Ramaswami? What would William F Buckley Jr. And I concluded that

they would probably be sitting back, probably I started drinking, and thinking what an

insufferable dick this guy is.

Okay, so joining me on our post-debate podcast, colleague AB Stoddard how are you AB I am well Charlie how are you well I'm looking for you for the more substantive stuff since I was I was having a hard time sort of getting my head around this this kind of runner-up debate where, you know, in theory, it's supposed to be a presidential debate and you're looking at the stage and going to get none of these guys are going to be president and not going to be the nominee.

Some of them are running for podcast or a year.

Some of them might think they're going to be VP.

They're not.

So should we start doing our hot takes here?

Before we get started, the elephant who was not in the

room the orange elephant who was not in the room of course was Donald Trump you know

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