Hello and welcome back to SoTriology 101 while I turn on my camera.

I've got to remember to do that.

We're going to be confronting somebody I actually admire.

Greg Kokel is the president, I think, founder of Stander Reason, a great apologist, somebody I have a great amount of respect for. And it's possible, yes, to have a great amount of respect for somebody you disagree with over a particular doctrine. I think Greg would be the first one to admit that and say that himself. Okay. So Dr. Kokel is a good apologist. A lot of what he teaches. I would

absolutely sign on with. I think Stand of Reason is a great organization. I know people who work with

Stand a Reason, who I admire and actually who agree with maybe more my perspective than what

Dr. Kokel is representing here

in this particular clip. And so what we're going to confront here is what sometimes I'm accused of

not ever dealing with. It's not true. There's a lot of broadcast out there and a lot of broadcast

I do deal with more inconsistent or lower forms of Calvinism, Calvinists that do not affirm

exhausted divine determinism. I've had several on the program that don't affirm determinism.

I've confronted several throughout the years, broadcast of people who don't affirm theistic

determinism. But if you're under the impression that Calvinists,

true Calvinism, confessional Calvinists,

true Calvinists that teach like John Calvin did,

that they don't teach divine theistic determinism,

then I'm sorry you don't understand what they taught.

You're mistaken, not me.

So sometimes Calvinists who don't hold to a consistent

theistic determinism accuse me of not understanding Calvinism because I'm confronting the actual

theistic determinists. And by the way, saying that your compatibilist does not negate that fact.

Compatibilists are saying theistic determinism is true. Yes, everything

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