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An Arm and a Leg

A 21st-century Christmas Carol: How one Scrooge became a health-care whistleblower

An Arm and a Leg

An Arm and a Leg

Documentary, Health & Fitness, Medicine, Society & Culture

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2020

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Former health-care executive Wendell Potter spent part of 2020 publishing high-profile apologies for the lies he says he told the American people in his old job—and trying to debunk the myths he once sold. His story is a modern Christmas Carol.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey there, I've got kind of a holiday story for you. I thought we'd sneak it in before the year ended.

0:05.0

You may have seen an essay or two floating around the internet this year along the lines of,

0:09.0

if you think health care in Canada is worse than in the US. Uh, I'm really sorry.

0:14.0

I'm the guy who sold you that big fat lie.

0:17.0

The author is Wendell Potter, and he was in charge of communications

0:20.0

for Cigna for a long time,

0:22.0

for most of the 90s and aughties and then about a dozen years ago he went rogue

0:27.2

left that job became a whistleblower this year that meant writing a couple of op-eds in the New York Times and the Washington Post.

0:34.4

Both of them are part of my work to make amends for what I used to do for a living,

0:39.3

which was in many cases to mislead people into thinking that we have the best health care

0:43.4

system in the world. You may have an opinion about the Canadian health care

0:47.4

system and you think that way because of the work that I used to do. I talked with them

0:52.0

last summer and it was a super interesting

0:54.1

conversation but I wasn't exactly sure what to do with it or when like what was the

0:58.9

occasion what was the lesson for right now and then a few weeks ago I thought, oh, Wendell Potter's story is a

1:05.9

version of a Christmas Carol. Only when you dig in it is messier and way more interesting.

1:13.0

This is an arm and a leg, show about the cost of health care.

1:17.0

My name is Dan Weisman.

1:19.0

I'm a reporter and I like the challenge.

1:21.0

So my job on this show is to take one of the most terrifying and

1:24.4

raging depressing elements of American life and give you something entertaining

1:28.4

and powering and useful. And a Christmas Carol? That is classic entertainment man. I'm Jewish. Whatever, I am a huge sucker for it.

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