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Within Reason

#99 Penn Badgley - My Religious Conflicts With Playing a Killer

Within Reason

Alex J O'Connor

Religion, Morality, Ethics, Society & Culture, Cosmicskeptic, Religion & Spirituality, Philosophy

4.91.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2025

⏱️ 116 minutes

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Summary

Penn Badgley is an actor best known for his roles in Netflix’s You and the popular drama series Gossip Girl. He is less known as a podcaster and member of the Baháʼí Faith, a religion which teaches that there is a historical unity between major world religions and their prophets, having itself developed out of a branch of Twelver Shia Islam in the 19th century.

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0:00.0

Pen Badgley, welcome to the show.

0:01.1

Thank you for having me.

0:02.2

You've just finished up, Joe Goldberg.

0:05.1

You've been playing him for what, since like 2017?

0:08.0

Yeah, yeah, so just about seven years.

0:11.2

And now you're done.

0:13.6

I'm finished except for the release, you know?

0:15.6

Sure.

0:16.6

The release, which is its own kind of work, its own kind of...

0:20.1

Do you feel in character for the...

0:21.6

No, not even close.

0:23.6

The part of me that is...

0:27.6

That might match it is that there's always something grim about my relationship to the character, and therefore the whole thing,

0:41.3

because I am sort of tasked the one person throughout the entire apparatus

0:48.3

who kind of like, you know, it makes sense, I need to ground it.

0:52.9

Everyone else is allowed to enjoy it

0:54.3

as a piece of, um, entertainment or frothy pop, whatever, you know, but if I don't ground it, then it's like,

1:01.9

well, that's when I think we're in danger of consuming it in a way that is like, you know,

1:07.5

damaging to our, to our digestive system, you know what I mean? Because at the end of the day, he's a protagonist who is, who's, who's, who's, just,

1:17.3

he's, well, he's what he is.

1:19.4

He's a murderer and he's a manipulator and he's an abuser and all those things.

1:23.8

And those words are like, they're so, they're heavy, you know.

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