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Lingthusiasm - A podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics

99: A politeness episode, if you please

Lingthusiasm - A podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics

Gretchen McCulloch and Lauren Gawne

Science

4.8743 Ratings

🗓️ 20 December 2024

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

If it wouldn't be too much trouble, if you have a spare half hour, could we possibly suggest that you might enjoy listening to this episode on politeness? Or, if you'd prefer a less polite version, "Listen! Now!" In this episode, your hosts Gretchen McCulloch and Lauren Gawne get enthusiastic about what politeness and rudeness are made up of at a linguistic level. We talk about existing cultural notions of "saving face" and "losing face", aka the push and pull between our desire for help vs our desire for independence, and how they've been formalized in a classic linguistics paper. We also talk about being less polite to show intimacy, addressing God in English and French, which forms of politeness are and aren't overtly taught, different uses of "please" in UK vs US English, levels of indirectness, email etiquette across generations and subcultures, rudeness and pointing, nodding norms in Japanese and English, smiling at strangers in the US vs Europe, and how a small number of politeness ingredients can combine in so many different ways that are culturally different. Click here for a link to this episode in your podcast player of choice: episodes.fm/1186056137/episode/dGFnOnNvdW5kY2xvdWQsMjAxMDp0cmFja3MvMTk5MDMyNTM3MQ Read the transcript here: lingthusiasm.com/post/770341829256364032/transcript-episode-99 Announcements: In this month’s bonus episode we get enthusiastic about science metaphors and learning everything with Tom Lum and Caroline Roper, cohosts of Let's Learn Everything! We talk about whether programming languages should count as a language credit, numbers and ritual stock phrases like seventeen and "once upon a time", as well as etymology and metaphor in ecology, chemistry, and linguistics. We also talk about turning the "constantly trying to figure things out" part of your brain off, attending the word of the year vote, and how linguists have a tendency to be curious about language all the time, which... sometimes gets us into trouble. Join us on Patreon now to get access to this and 90+ other bonus episodes, plus access to the Lingthusiasm Discord server where you can chat with other language nerds. Find it all right here: patreon.com/lingthusiasm Looking for a last minute gift for the language nerd in your life? Or are you trying to get someone in your life to love linguistics as much as you do? Patreon have newly added a gift memberships feature! So if you'd be excited to receive a patreon membership to Lingthusiasm, forward this link to your friends and/or family with a little wink wink nudge nudge patreon.com/lingthusiasm/gift For links to things mentioned in this episode: lingthusiasm.com/post/770341545981444096/lingthusiasm-episode-99-a-politeness-episode-if

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Lingthusiasm, a podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics.

0:23.2

I'm Lauren Gorn.

0:24.5

And I'm Gretchen McCulloch.

0:25.6

And today we're getting enthusiastic, but what politeness and rudeness are made up of at a linguistic level?

0:31.1

But first, people have been asking us for years.

0:34.8

You guys have bonus episodes on Patreon, but I want to get a gift for someone,

0:38.5

or I'm broke, I don't have a credit card, is there a way that I can buy a gift subscription

0:43.0

for someone else to the bonus episodes or ask someone else to get them as a gift for me?

0:47.6

And we're pleased to say that the answer is now yes. Patreon have newly added a gift

0:53.2

membership feature, so if you'd be excited to receive

0:55.6

a Patreon membership to Lingthusiasm as a gift, we'll have the link in the show notes for you

0:59.9

to forward to your friends and or family with a little wink-wink nudge-nudge. Also, if you're

1:04.6

intrigued by the bonus episodes, but a monthly subscription isn't quite your thing, we also

1:08.6

now have a way for you to buy a themed bundle of

1:10.9

linguistic bonus episodes on a particular topic. So if you're looking for more linguistics-related

1:14.5

books to read, both fiction and non-fiction, you can pick up the linguistics book club collection,

1:19.6

you can pick up the Lingthusiasm Book Club collection, or check out the Lingthusiasm After

1:24.7

Dark collection for our episodes about swearing, language under the influence of various substances,

1:31.5

and our special ASMR episode where we read the Harvard sentences in a soothing, calming voice.

1:38.3

For both of these collections or membership that gives you access to over 90 bonus episodes,

1:42.6

go to patreon.com slash linkthusiasm.

1:45.2

Our most recent bonus episode, for example, was a crossover chat with the team from

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