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Today, a look back on attacks on health care workers in 2025.

Len Rubinstein is the author of the book, Periless Medicine, the struggle to protect health care from the violence of war, and an emeritus distinguished professor of the practice

at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. He joins Dr. Josh Sharfstein to talk about

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