What's it called again? What's the gym called? Verde Valley,

Brazil and Jiu-J so Verde-Vich-Valley B. J. And what what town is that in?

Old town cottonwood at Arizona. So you essentially like invested and built a gym out there so you'd have a place to train?

Basically, yeah. That's such a smart move.

Yeah. It's kind of what you have to do right? Yeah. Otherwise you'd have to drive hours

to go somewhere. Yeah I mean there's megatons down south there's a bunch of places down there but

they're just it's you know two hour

drive there's also Ted Osborne jutitsu has an academy there when you decide like

where you're gonna live when you decide where you're gonna like decide to spend all your

time like do you ever go when you decide where you're going to like decide to spend all your time.

Like do you ever go what the fuck am I doing in the middle of nowhere in Arizona?

I'm maintaining peace of mind and I remind myself of that right away. So that's like essential, it's planned out in the sense. Yeah,

just that that isolation a little bit just to be able to unplug and reset I think just my introvert nature I need I need that time I need that I need that

introspection I need that moment yeah because for you you are kind of an introvert but

you're also kind of an extrovert I mean you're the lead singer of

tool I mean it's not like I mean you can only be so introverted

and do what you do so you have to kind of like fluctuate between

balance but I need to recharge I need to unplug and go back and recharge and then I can

go back out and do that a lot of people never figure that out right they just

kind of burn they burn the fuck out How did you figure out to not do that?

First couple years of being in LA, realize it was just such an energy sap. I needed to actually literally go someplace where there were very few people.

Yeah, that's the move, right? God, I always keep thinking I should do that.

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