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Hello, everybody. It's Monday, November 10th, and this is your chopo. Just off the top of the show, I will say, no more talk about New York City. I know you've been sick of it. No more talk about New York City. But for today's episode, basically, over the last couple weeks, when we've seen a massive military buildup in the Caribbean and the open threat of a U.S. invasion of Venezuela.

And basically, when I began to hear Trump supporters begin to justify this or promote a possible war with Venezuela by invoking the Monroe Doctrine,

I knew I had to get this guest back on the show. So to offer a historical perspective on the United States and Venezuela,

please welcome back to the show, Greg Grandin.

Thanks for having me, Will.

So, Greg, like I said, I just want to begin first with, like I said,

we're sending an aircraft carrier group to the Caribbean,

but like this is all in the context of like this,

this kill spree that the Trump administration has going on, blowing up these fast boats in the Caribbean, just killing

people and then sharing the snuff film with the media to promote what they're doing,

supposedly as a war on narco traffickers, which are linked to Venezuela. You gave us a little preview of an article

you wrote this coming out where you described this as sort of government by murder incorporated.

So just to begin here, to what extent are we already at war with Venezuela? And what do you make of

like I said, this murder spree? Well, if you look at the U.S. war on drugs, the U.S.

has always been at war on drugs, at least since 1973. And, you know, the thing about, you know,

Trump is that he's insisting it's not a metaphor, that it actually gives him extraordinary powers

to do whatever he wants. And the thing about Venezuela and the attacks on the go fast boats,

which have started September 2nd and have accelerated in,

you know,

like any good serial killer,

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