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Otherppl with Brad Listi

985. Chelsea Bieker

Otherppl with Brad Listi

Brad Listi

Books, Arts, Society & Culture

4.8555 Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Chelsea Bieker is the author of the novel Madwoman, now available in trade paperback wherever books are sold.  Bieker's first novel, Godshot, was longlisted for The Center For Fiction’s First Novel Prize and her story collection, Heartbroke won the California Book Award. She is the co-creator of The Fountain, writes about creative practice at her substack, Make Up Your Life, and is at work on a new novel.  *** ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Otherppl with Brad Listi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is a weekly podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, etc. Get How to Write a Novel, the debut audio course from DeepDive. 50+ hours of never-before-heard insight, inspiration, and instruction from dozens of today's most celebrated contemporary authors. Subscribe to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Brad Listi’s email newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support the show on Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Merch⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠proud affiliate partner of Bookshop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, working to support local, independent bookstores. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:19.9

Hey, where is Welcome to the show. This is the Other People podcast, a weekly program featuring

0:32.4

in-depth conversations with today's leading contemporary writers. I'm Brad Listy. I'm in Los Angeles. It's

0:39.7

nice to be with you. I appreciate you tuning in. And I hope you're doing okay, wherever you happen

0:45.2

to be. Don't forget to hit the subscribe button wherever you listen. You can also subscribe

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on YouTube, and you can follow me on Blue Sky and Instagram.

0:56.5

So today I'm going to be speaking with Chelsea Beaker about her novel Madwoman,

1:02.9

now available in trade paperback from Back Bay Books.

1:06.6

This is Chelsea's second time on the program, and she returns celebrating this novel of hers,

1:14.6

which I would classify as a suspenseful page turner about PTSD and generational trauma.

1:22.9

So it's a little bit unexpected in its bearing.

1:25.7

There aren't too many page turners out there that I know of about PTSD.

1:30.3

Though I guess maybe there are, you could call a lot of novels, novels about P, maybe all novels are novels about PTSD on some level.

1:41.8

But this one is acutely so.

1:45.3

It's about a woman who is on the run from her past,

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