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We got in contact with Tommy because he was mentioned by Mark Weinstein when we had him on the podcast.

And what you're about to hear is an interview with a gentleman who started a company. It's brand new.

And the aim of the company is to get people to structure time away from their phones, which sounds funny, but this guy is getting businesses growing because people see a need for it.

It's really, really interesting.

And he's got a really interesting guy too.

When I first came across his Instagram and his page, I started looking into him. I listened to one of his interviews.

What I didn't find out until a way later, I tried dug through all stuff was he's a Duke University grad and he's got a background in neuroscience.

And he's got a killer background in Hollywood. I mean, he actually literally worked for Spielberg and Dreamworks.

So he's got some serious connections. He's also, I think, was hearing things earlier than a lot of people.

And I just felt the same way I felt when I first read the book that I talked a million times about that everyone teases me about a couple of years ago.

That thing just, it sent me down this rabbit hole of, oh my god, like, what do we have coming ahead of us?

And I really believe that we are heading this way. And it was only a matter of time before other people started to recognize it and see it.

And then somebody creates some sort of a movement to counter it, right?

Yeah, I like what he's doing. I like that it's about creating kind of boundaries and figuring out how to navigate through all these new technology pitfalls that we find ourselves in.

And it's the thing is it's addictive, but you don't have to feel ashamed that you're being addicted because that's really what's engineered into these phones.

And I just like that he hasn't, the message isn't abandoned your phone. It's, you know, how do we now implement good practices?

Yeah, total health and wellness today includes a practice that involves becoming more active.

It includes a practice around understanding when it's appropriate to eat certain foods and when you should eat other foods and how to be healthy around that.

It's also currently in modern times about developing a practice with your technology.

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