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It's amazing what's going on the different variations of how people just look at things to start with, but then also how they can expound that into theories that some are reasonable but some are just playing out their whack-a-doo.

Yeah, well, I mean, some people who've proposed Zodiac candidates who have turned out not to be Zodiac are, they're totally reasonable theories, and then some, and lots of the people have done very good work in service of those theories, and then there are people who, you know, have...

There are people with a tenuous hold on reality, and who see that as a way to say, that's better than saying whack-a-doo, right?

That identifies at least one of the people on this podcast. Help me talk about yourself.

We're going to come on now.

Why not? I make the most sense to myself. Like, you were saying, you're here. It's like, I'm through.

I'm my own best judge.

Well, let's take that and start getting into now this research, because there were some things it was fascinating to about the Zines, so tell everybody about the Zines,

how that started playing in when you started doing research on them, the Tolkien-related things.

There's a lot of things that, on its face, if you just look at it separately, it looks like, okay, this is weird.

But when you put it in context, it's like, okay, there's a lot of things that connect here.

Yeah, so what's the best way?

There was a person, who's part of the online community, who identified Zodiac in October 28th, sends in this mailing.

It's a card that's become called the Halloween card.

And on the back of it, it has this weird across stick where the word slaves and paradise form across, and then in each of the quadrants formed by that cross.

It says, by knife, by gun, by rope, by fire.

This person who's online, who was called Tahoe 27, no one knows who they were.

Found this old comic book, Tim Holt number 30, that has this wheel of death on it that has the same four things, by on the cover.

By knife, by rope, by fire, by gun.

When we say by two, we want people to understand that's BY, not BY, like go by a knife, yeah.

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