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#98 | Eric Giuliani on Traveling 70,000 Miles Around the World on a Shoestring Budget

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Zach Davis

Sports, Wilderness

4.61.7K Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2021

⏱️ 130 minutes

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Summary

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by The Trek, we are joined by Eric Giuliani.  Eric, more or less on a whim, decided to trade his unfulfilling corporate job to circumnavigate the globe without taking a single flight. Yes, 70,000 miles by boat, train, and automobile, and- to make the story even more ridiculous- he relies largely on his very nascent photography skills to barter his way around the world.  We learn all about this massive adventure, including an in-depth accounting for how he pitched hotels to lodge in exchange for his services, how difficult it can be to lay low during high terror alerts as a 6'10" former collegiate basketball player, what it's like to spend several days on cargo ships without any form of entertainment, and more.

We wrap the show with a quick chat about Trail Days 2021, a triple crown of things we'd do with a million bucks, and an absurd story about a bear biting a woman's ass in an outhouse.

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Interview with Eric Giuliani 

00:05:07 - QOTD: What is a movie that inspires you or has inspired you to get outside?

00:11:02 - Where does your travel story start? 

00:13:18 - Can you elaborate on why it's better to hate your job than like your job? 

00:15:31 - How did your finances and the philosophy of the travel itself interface with one another?

00:19:42 - So before you left you didn't actually have the skills you were bartering?

00:23:59 - How far in advance were you booking places out (through bartering)? 

00:26:15 - What was your success rate on reaching out to people? What goes into a good pitch for what you were trying to do? 

00:28:21 - Did you ever feel any sort of imposter syndrome while doing this? 

00:30:15 - Did your pitch start to work better once your portfolio got more built out?

00:32:30 - Did your pitch start to involve more video as you got better? 

00:38:19 - Drones are the move.

00:39:28 - Can you share how you chose what destinations you chose? How you formatted the trip?

00:45:24 - Is it even more difficult to lay low as a westerner being 6'10"?

00:47:04 - You've mentioned that the bus rides are dangerous, can you explain some of the dangers they pose?

00:49:09 - Were there ever instances during these risky trips that put you on edge?

00:50:40 - Were you doing anything recreationally during the African leg of your journey?

00:52:39 - What happened after Egypt?

00:54:55 - How did you keep yourself entertained on a cargo ship?

00:56:00 - Were there any huge storms on cargo ships?

00:58:44 - Can you talk more about your Europe adventures?

01:04:13 - What were you traveling with?

01:05:35 - Did you buy new stuff as you went along?

01:07:12 - Who did you give the bartered jacket to?

01:08:06 - Were you good at pitching yourself in person before you left or did you hone the craft over the course of your journey?

01:09:11 - When you did pay for things did you ever negotiate? Did you ever haggle?

01:11:00 - What was the primary thread that you enjoyed about this trip?

01:13:33 - Where did you go after Beijing?

01:17:08 - Did you ever have a moment on the ships where you felt like it might sink?

01:19:15 - What does someone do in Antarctica?

01:23:00 - What is the place you are actually staying like? Can you describe the town or whatever it is?

01:24:20 - Do you have any general pieces of advice for anyone who's interested in doing something similar?

 

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0:00.0

In today's episode of Backpacker Radio presented by the track we are joined by Eric Giuliani.

0:06.4

Eric, more or less on a whim, decided to trade his unfulfilling corporate job to circumnavigate

0:12.2

the globe without taking a single flight.

0:15.0

Yes, 70,000 miles by boat, train, and automobile.

0:19.6

And to make the story even more ridiculous, he relies largely on his very nascent photography

0:25.6

skills to barter his way around the world.

0:29.0

We learn all about this massive adventure, including an in-depth accounting for how

0:33.9

he pitched hotels to lodge an exchange for his services, how difficult it can be to

0:38.6

lay low during a high terror alert as a 6-10 former collegiate basketball player, what

0:44.5

it's like to spend several days on a cargo ship without any form of entertainment and

0:49.0

much more.

0:50.0

We wrap the show with a quick chat about Trail Days 2021, a triple crown of things we

0:54.9

do with a million bucks, and an absurd story about a bear biting a woman's ass in

1:00.3

an outhouse.

1:01.8

But first, if you've listened to Backpacker Radio from the jump, you are already familiar

1:06.5

with our next advertiser.

1:08.0

I've been bothering them to sponsor us for a very long time because I'm such a big

1:12.3

fan of their foods.

1:13.6

Yes, I'm talking about Good to Go.

1:16.6

Based out of Kid Remain, Good to Go is the maker of my favorite dehydrated backcountry

1:21.2

meals.

1:22.2

Good to Go meals were a primary fuel source for me and Jabba during our 100-day trek

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